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FEDERAL PIONEER in CANADA
  What Are Federal Pioneer Panel Concerns?
  Federal Pioneer Warranty Alert
  Federal Pioneer Electrical Circuit Breaker Recall
  Field Reports of Federal Pioneer Problems
  Other Federal Pioneer Concerns
  Are Recent Federal Pioneer Stab-Loks Safe?
FPE Stab-lok: FIRES WAITING TO HAPPEN
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Photo of a recent Federal Pioneer Electric Panel Should Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok Electrical Panels be Replaced?
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  • Are older vs. recently-manufactured Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok Electrical Panels Safe?
  • Federal Pioneer (Canadian) Electrical Panels & Circuit Breaker Hazards
  • Federal Pioneer Electric Panel Recall
  • Federal Pioneer (Canadian) compared with Federal Pacific Electric (U.S.) Stab-Lok panels

Recent data about the performance and hazards of Canadian-made Federal Pioneer equipment newer than 1997 is lacking though there has been a Canadian product recall and a hazard warning for older equipment. In U.S.-made Federal Pacific Electric components, we recommend against replacing individual FPE Stab-lok circuit breakers - there is no evidence that doing so will improve the safety of the electrical system. We recommend that any U.S. FPE Stab-Lok panel and older Canadian FP equipment be replaced entirely. Our site offers impartial, unbiased advice without conflicts of interest.

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This article discusses possible hazards of the Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok electrical panels & circuit breakers,in more recently manufactured FP product versions. The Federal Pioneer brand of electrical panels and circuit breakers is a Canadian version of the Federal Pacific Electric Stab-Lok equipment. The FPE website explains the hazards associated with the American product: Federal Pacific Electric Stab-lok circuit breakers and service panels, provides a history of the issue, recounts research on FPE failures, and recommends replacement of the panels. Readers should also see HOW TO IDENTIFY FPE & FP for help in identifying Federal Pioneer old and more recently-manufactured Stab-lok products, and see FEDERAL PIONEER in CANADA for a discussion of the safety of older Federal Pioneer equipment. These discussions pertain only to the Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok electrical equipment brand made in Canada, not to the Federal Pacific Stab-lok brand made and installed in the United States.

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SUMMARY OF the FPE Stab-Lok PROBLEM
FPE HAZARD ARTICLES, STUDIES
FPE Stab-Lok TECHNICAL REPORT
HOW TO IDENTIFY FPE & FP
REPORTS OF FPE FAILURES
HOW TO REPORT FPE INCIDENTS
FPE REPAIR ELECTRICIANS
FPE REPLACEMENT BREAKERS
FPE REPLACEMENT PANELS

FEDERAL PIONEER in CANADA
  What Are Federal Pioneer Panel Concerns?
  Federal Pioneer Warranty Alert
  Federal Pioneer Electrical Circuit Breaker Recall
  Field Reports of Federal Pioneer Problems
  Other Federal Pioneer Concerns
  Are Recent Federal Pioneer Stab-Loks Safe?
FPE Stab-lok: FIRES WAITING TO HAPPEN
ADVICE TO HOME BUYERS w/ FPE PANELS
HOME INSPECTION LANGUAGE for FPE Stab-Lok
IAEI LETTER
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Are Newer Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok Electrical Panels Safe ?

In Canada, the Federal Pacific Electric FPE Stab-lok electrical panel and circuit breaker line was sold under the brand name Federal Pioneer or FP or FP Stab-Lok.

We have much less field and test data on the Canadian FP products. There was a 1997 Canadian FP recall notice (discussed at Federal Pioneer Electrical Circuit Breaker Recall) and a 1997 warranty alert (discussed at Federal Pioneer Warranty Alert).

We have received only a few field reports about Canadian FP installations than U.S. FPE installations, but we lack data to know if that’s due to fewer website readers from Canada, fewer FP panels installed in Canada than FPE in the U.S., better Canadian electrical wiring workmanship overall, fewer electrical events that should trip the breaker, or a better product or redesigned product in the Federal Pioneer versions of this equipment sold in Canada.

In sum:  as of April 2008 we cannot report that the Federal Pioneer panels perform the same, better, or worse than the older, discontinued US Federal Pacific Electric or FPE Stab-Lok version of this product.  

Building owners should not rely on any Federal Pacific Electric Stab-lok electrical panels, and building owners should be cautious about continuing to rely on any older Canadian Federal Pioneer design.

But it is certainly possible that Canadian versions - the Federal Pioneer equipment made much more recently, say after 1997, may have been improved-on and might perform acceptably.

We’d like to see photos of recent Canadian FP electrical panels, labels, and interior bus design and breakers to perhaps be able to offer more information.

History of Inquiry about Federal Pioneer Electrical Panels & Breakers made in Canada

Schneider Electric in Canada purchased and has continued to market the Federal Pioneer line (which is the Canadian version of Federal Pacific Electric) of Stab-Lok products.

Photo of Federal Pioneer old and new circuit breakers

Quite some time ago we (D Friedman) asked a Schneider engineer if Schneider made any product changes or improvements over the original FPE Stab-Lok version when it was picked up in Canada. While at first he was friendly, later, perhaps after talking with management, neither the engineer I spoke with nor anyone else at Schneider responded to any questions about this product whatsoever.

(The photo shows old and new circuit breakers such as seen in the Federal Pioneer NBLP38-TF32 electrical panel photographed in 1997)

At that time, I took that to mean that perhaps the company had no compelling good news to report, but I acknowledge that they could simply be afraid to share test or any other data, regardless of the product’s performance, as I explain below.

Some of the original product problems appear to have been inherent in the design of the breaker internal parts and the bus assembly, and I was told by some engineers that a redesign to correct these problems would have priced the product out of its niche in the market (the low end).

So we are faced with the situation of a company who has so far not provided public information about the product’s testing, performance, or engineering changes. We would very much welcome a Federal Pioneer product testing and performance update so to be able to inform to consumers whether or not later versions of the Federal Pioneer product line have been improved and perform acceptably.

I speculate that Schneider/Federal Pioneer may have indeed made corrections or improvements in the product since the 1970’s and 80’s, and I speculate further that they may be reluctant so say so since that would admit prior problems and thus risk liability and claims.

What should a Homeowner Do About a Recently-Made Federal Pioneer Electrical Panel?

Photo of a Federal Pioneer electrical panel labelI would not assume that the newer Canadian Federal Pioneer electrical panels and circuit breakers are unacceptable or unsafe,  but given the very bad performance of the original designs of the original FPE Stab-Lok product which were widely sold over many years, I would not fail to look for more current test and engineering data on this product.

(The photo shows the data label in a Federal Pioneer electrical panel model NBLP32B-4NBCFB taken in 1997)

Comments & Questions for Schneider about FP Panels

 

If it were my home and my panel shown at the top of this page, I would call the Schneider Electric company and, in as respectful a manner as I could, I’d simply put these questions to them

  1. The older versions of the product clearly had problems in the U.S. and at least some failures in Canada, (there was a Canadian product alert notice)

  2. Schneider Electric Co. has continued to produce and sell the Federal Pioneer brand electrical panel

  3. Newer Federal Pioneer electrical panels and breakers, though they may still be a Stab-lok design, look a little different than the older ones by simple visual inspection of the electrical panel and circuit breaker colors and toggle switch handles.

  4. Can or will Schneider Electric provide any test reports or technical data about any changes or improvements in the product since the era when Schneider picked it up?

Federal Pioneer Electrical Panel Field Reports Requested

We invite building owners, electricians, fire marshals, manufacturers, or independent testing laboratories to report to us on the field performance or field failures or product testing results for this product and we will publish here any updates we are able obtain.

We’d also like to see photos of the bus design itself – an electrician can open the panel – remove the cover, and if necessary pull a breaker to expose the bus and breaker connectors – that might tell us if visible changes were made even if we don’t know if internal breaker design changes were made.

Key Articles & Reports on Federal Pioneer Stab-Lok Electrical Panels & Circuit Breakers

The following are key articles on this Federal Pioneer electrical equipment. The complete list of online articles, government and other public documents, class action activity, and research is at More Information

Readers who own a Federal Pioneer electrical panel should see:

Details, public documents, and test reports concerning Federal Pacific Electric and the Stab-lok electrical panel and circuit breaker design are at:

Technical Reviewers

Particular thanks are due to experts and also consumers who read these articles and suggest corrections, changes, and additions to the material. Content suggestions, technical corrections and content critique are invited for any of the content at our website.

  • Note: as we didn't add this reviewers list until 2007, this list of technical reviewers is incomplete; we have received comments and suggestions regarding this topic, edits and remarks included, from engineers and management from the US CPSC, electricians (many listed at our page on field reports of FPE failures), home inspectors, licensed electricians, and electrical engineers, and even a few attorneys and real estate agents, since 1986. Technical review, critique, content suggestions, questions, or clarifications are invited and where a contributor wishes, credit and links will be provided to that source. Contact us to provide feedback.
  • Dr. Jess Aronstein, electrical engineer, Poughkeepsie, NY, forensic engineering services, independent laboratory testing for various agencies
  • Alan Carson, Carson Dunlop Associates, Toronto, Ontario. Mr. Carson is a home inspection professional, educator, researcher, writer, and a principal of Carson Dunlop Associates, a Toronto home inspection and education firm. Mr. Carson is a past president of ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors
  • Mark Cramer Inspection Services Mark Cramer, Tampa Florida, Mr. Cramer is a past president of ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors and is a Florida home inspector and home inspection educator.
  • Carl Grasso, Esq., Herzfeld & Rubin, New York, NY. Mr. Grasso is an attorney who managed a plaintiff's class action litigation against Federal Pacific Electric in New Jersey.
  • William King, US CPSC Director of Electrical Engineering (Ret).
  • Licensed Electricians: FPE Fire and Failure Reports includes electricians who have provided cases and photographs of field failures of FPE equipment at this website.
  • Homeowners, Home Inspectors, Electricians: Federal Pacific Electric (FPE) Panel Fires and other Failures includes anecdotal field reports provided by a range of contributors including electricians (and some home owners or home inspectors) who have provided cases and photographs of field failures of FPE equipment at this website.
  • Daniel Friedman - principal reporter.
  • Technical reviewers are invited to comment or ask questions - contact us


THE FPE Stab-Lok WEBSITE
SUMMARY OF the FPE Stab-Lok PROBLEM
FPE HAZARD ARTICLES, STUDIES
FPE Stab-Lok TECHNICAL REPORT
HOW TO IDENTIFY FPE & FP
REPORTS OF FPE FAILURES
HOW TO REPORT FPE INCIDENTS
FPE REPAIR ELECTRICIANS
FPE REPLACEMENT BREAKERS
FPE REPLACEMENT PANELS
FPE REPLACEMENT PANEL COSTS
FEDERAL PIONEER in CANADA
FPE Stab-lok: FIRES WAITING TO HAPPEN
ADVICE TO HOME BUYERS w/ FPE PANELS
HOME INSPECTION LANGUAGE for FPE Stab-Lok
IAEI LETTER
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