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How to Diagnose & Repair Clogged Hot Water Piping or a Clogged Tankless Coil
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Here we discuss how to correct clogging at the tankless coil in order to improve the hot water pressure, quantity, flow from a tankless coil used for making domestic hot water.
We include a simple diagnostic procedure to find out if your bad hot water pressure is due to clogging in the hot water piping or in the tankless coil itself. If you need to improve the hot water temperature and flow from a tankless coil system that is not clogged, see Tankless Coil for Hot Water Increase. Thanks to Carson Dunlop, a Toronto Home Inspection Firm and Home Inspection Educator, for permission to use sketches shown in this article.
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How to Check for and Correct Clogged Piping or Clogged Tankless Coil to Improve Hot Water Pressure or Flow
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Hot water pressure and hot water flow in a building may be poor even where a mixing valve has been installed. This condition could be due to poor overall building water pressure or due to clogged pipes.
If cold water pressure is good and hot water pressure is poor, the problem is not an overall building water pressure issue. There is a problem with the hot water system that needs to be found and corrected.
If hot water pressure is strong when the water is first turned on but flow quickly falls off to a weak hot water stream, it's likely that the hot water piping (or tankless coil) are clogged.
Often this repair involves using acid to try to remove minerals that are clogging hot water system piping or a tankless coil, or the tankless coil may need replacement.
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Abandoning a tankless coil altogether: When we bought our house the tankless coil was almost totally clogged with minerals, and we figured that it wouldn't provide enough hot water anyway, so we abandoned it. In the photo at left you can see the round black tankless coil face, with two holes - where we removed the cold-water-in and hot-water-out pipes and simply abandoned the tankless coil.
A separate water heater was installed in our utility area. (We'd have preferred an indirect-fired water heater which is discussed later in this article but that's not what we got.)
Guide to Acid Flushing of Clogged Tankless Coils or Clogged Hot Water Piping
Some plumbers will attempt to clean out water supply piping that has become mineral-clogged. The general procedure is the following:
- First, confirm the diagnosis that the problem is clogged piping, not a clogged strainer, valve, or improper pipe connections (such as use of too much solder on copper piping connections). Some types of pipe or tankless coil clogging such as due to sediment, rust, or mechanical damage will not be corrected by an acid flush. See WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS GUIDE and Water pipe clog repair guide for more general water pressure diagnosis guidance.
- Install shutoff valves and drain valves at each end of the water supply piping (or right at the tankless coil inlet and outlet piping)
- Shut off water supply to and then drain the piping or tankless coil to be cleaned
- Connect the two drain fittings (at the two ends of the copper piping or tankless coil) to hoses (often washing machine hoses are used) as follows:
- One drain hose empties into a bucket
- The other drain hose is connected to a "pony pump" capable of pumping acids
- Prepare the acid flush mix: The bucket receives a few gallons of a cleaning acid selected by the plumber (such as muriatic or dilute sulfuric acid)
CAUTION: Acids can cause dangerous burns or loss of vision: appropriate hand, eye, and skin protection are needed as well as protection against acid spills.
- The acid is pumped cycling through the piping or tankless coil to be cleaned.
- The acid is flushed from the piping or tankless coil using fresh water
- The hoses and acid are removed and the drain valves closed.
- The plumbing water supply to the cleaned section of piping or tankless coil is turned back on
- The plumbing system is flushed to be sure no acid remains in the piping
Does acid flushing of water piping or tankless coils work?
Often an acid flush will indeed restore or improve water pressure and flow through previously-clogged building piping. But the process has these limitations:
- Etching speeds new clogging: Some plumbers have told us that the acid flush process also leaves the piping interior "etched" - this roughened surface may result in mineral-clogging recurring sooner than it did in the first place.
- Acids can cause leaks in previously marginal piping that is already thin and corroded
- Acids may leak out and cause damage if piping is not in good condition
- Clogging will recur: If the cause of the original pipe clogging is not corrected, it will recur. For example, hard water that results in mineral clogging of pipes or clogging of a tankless coil can and should be treated with a water softener. (A water softener won't remove clogging in pipes but it will help prevent its occurrence or recurrence). See WATER SOFTENERS The pile of tankless coils shown at the top of this page is probably an example of terrible recurrent mineral clogging of tankless coils at the building where we took this photo.
- Working with acid is dangerous. Some plumbers will therefore not provide this service.
See Tankless Coils for an explanation of how these water heaters work and why they clog up and how to stop clogging up the coil.
See Water pipe clog repair guide for a discussion of loss of water pressure due to clogged piping or clogged tankless coils.
At Larger Diameter Water Supply Piping we discuss the benefits of using larger diameter water supply piping both to improve water pressure and flow and also to delay the clogging of pipes due to minerals or rust.
How do we Improve the Hot Water Volume & Quantity?
As we discussed beginning in the previous section of this article, there are several different hot water problems:
- Poor hot water flow, or bad hot water pressure, which is usually a piping or clogging problem or an overall building water pressure problem
- Poor hot water quantity: not enough hot water, or running out of hot water very quickly. Insufficient hot water quantity may be due to the way hot water is being made (a water heater that is too small, a tankless coil on a new small heating boiler, or an instantaneous water heater that is being asked to supply hot water too rapidly.
- Hot water temperature that is not hot enough: water temperature is just too cool. Insufficient hot water temperature may be due simply to the setting of a temperature control on a water heater or mixing valve, or it may be due to flowing water too fast through a tankless coil. Hot water that is not hot enough can be caused by quite a list of problems, some of which are easy to correct. See Temperature of Hot Water is Too Low for steps to correct water that just won't get hot.
Articles Describing Steps to Increase Hot Water Quantity
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The topics discussed in this article address improving hot water flow and improving hot water total quantity.
A Comparison of Alternative Hot Water Heaters & Sources
The following articles discuss alternative ways to produce domestic hot water for washing and bathing.
The characteristics of various water heaters such as life expectancy, cost, safety, and capacity are discussed at WATER HEATER PROPERTIES
Ways to improve total hot water quantity, pressure, temperature and flow are discussed beginning at HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS and continuing at HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT.
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- Domestic and Commercial Oil Burners, Charles H. Burkhardt, McGraw Hill Book Company, New York 3rd Ed 1969.
- National Fuel Gas Code (Z223.1) $16.00 and National Fuel Gas Code Handbook (Z223.2) $47.00 American Gas Association (A.G.A.), 1515 Wilson Boulevard, Arlington, VA 22209 also available from National Fire Protection Association, Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02269. Fundamentals of Gas Appliance Venting and Ventilation, 1985, American Gas Association Laboratories, Engineering Services Department. American Gas Association, 1515 Wilson Boulevard, Arlington, VA 22209. Catalog #XHO585. Reprinted 1989.
- The Steam Book, 1984, Training and Education Department, Fluid Handling Division, ITT [probably out of print, possibly available from several home inspection supply companies] Fuel Oil and Oil Heat Magazine, October 1990, offers an update,
- Principles of Steam Heating, $13.25 includes postage. Fuel oil & Oil Heat Magazine, 389 Passaic Ave., Fairfield, NJ 07004.
- The Lost Art of Steam Heating, Dan Holohan, 516-579-3046 FAX
- Principles of Steam Heating, Dan Holohan, technical editor of Fuel Oil and Oil Heat magazine, 389 Passaic Ave., Fairfield, NJ 07004 ($12.+1.25 postage/handling).
- "Residential Steam Heating Systems", Instructional Technologies Institute, Inc., 145 "D" Grassy Plain St., Bethel, CT 06801 800/227-1663 [home inspection training material] 1987
- "Residential Hydronic (circulating hot water) Heating Systems", Instructional Technologies Institute, Inc., 145 "D" Grassy Plain St., Bethel, CT 06801 800/227-1663 [home inspection training material] 1987
- "Warm Air Heating Systems". Instructional Technologies Institute, Inc., 145 "D" Grassy Plain St., Bethel, CT 06801 800/227-1663 [home inspection training material] 1987
- Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning Volume I, Heating Fundamentals,
- Boilers, Boiler Conversions, James E. Brumbaugh, ISBN 0-672-23389-4 (v. 1) Volume II, Oil, Gas, and Coal Burners, Controls, Ducts, Piping, Valves, James E. Brumbaugh, ISBN 0-672-23390-7 (v. 2) Volume III, Radiant Heating, Water Heaters, Ventilation, Air Conditioning, Heat Pumps, Air Cleaners, James E. Brumbaugh, ISBN 0-672-23383-5 (v. 3) or ISBN 0-672-23380-0 (set) Special Sales Director, Macmillan Publishing Co., 866 Third Ave., New York, NY 10022. Macmillan Publishing Co., NY
- Installation Guide for Residential Hydronic Heating Systems
- Installation Guide #200, The Hydronics Institute, 35 Russo Place, Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922
- The ABC's of Retention Head Oil Burners, National Association of Oil Heat Service Managers, TM 115, National Old Timers' Association of the Energy Industry, PO Box 168, Mineola, NY 11501. (Excellent tips on spotting problems on oil-fired heating equipment. Booklet.)
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