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PLUMBING TOPICS OIL TANKS SEPTIC SYSTEMS WATER PRESSURE REPAIR GUIDE & COSTS WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS GUIDE Water Pressure Intermittent No Water Pressure Water Pressure Tank Problems Water Pressure Tank Diagnosis Bad water pressure regulator Water pipe clog diagnosis Water pipe clog repair guide Making the "right" repair Typical Water Tank & Pump Prices WATER PUMPS & TANKS & WELLS WATER PUMP CONTROLS & SWITCHES IDENTIFY WELL PUMP TANK COMPONENTS MAIN WATER SHUTOFF VALVE PUMP ELECTRICAL SWITCHES PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL ADJUSTMENT WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL REPAIR WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL REPLACE PUMP RELAY SWITCH TANK AIR VOLUME CONTROLS TANK AIR INLET VALVE TANK AIR VALVE REPAIRS TANK PRESSURE GAUGE TANK DRAIN VALVE TANK RELIEF VALVE CHECK VALVES WATER FILTERS PUMP TYPES & LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER PUMP & TANK SAFETY WATER SUPPLY & DRAIN PIPING WATER TANK TYPES: WATER, OIL, EXPANSION, ALL WATER TANK LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER TANK REPAIRS WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD WATER TANK REPLACEMENT WATER TANK PRESSURE CALCULATIONS WATER TANK SIZE & VOLUME WATER TANKS HOW THEY WORK WATER TESTING WELLS CISTERNS & SPRINGS WELL LIFE EXPECTANCY More Information InspectAPedia TM Home & Site Map Air Conditioning InspectAPedia Bookstore Electrical Environment Exteriors Heating Home Inspection Insulate Ventilate Interiors Mold Inspect/Test Plumbing Water Septic Roofing Structure Accuracy & Bias Pledge Contact Us |
How to Diagnose & Fix Lost Water Pressure + Water Pump & Tank Repair Cost Estimates
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PLUMBING TOPICS OIL TANKS SEPTIC SYSTEMS WATER PRESSURE REPAIR GUIDE & COSTS WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS GUIDE Water Pressure Intermittent No Water Pressure Water Pressure Tank Problems Water Pressure Tank Diagnosis Bad water pressure regulator Water pipe clog diagnosis Water pipe clog repair guide Making the "right" repair Typical Water Tank & Pump Prices WATER PUMPS & TANKS & WELLS WATER PUMP CONTROLS & SWITCHES PUMP TYPES & LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER PUMP & TANK SAFETY WATER SUPPLY & DRAIN PIPING WATER TANK TYPES: WATER, OIL, EXPANSION, ALL WATER TANK LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER TANK REPAIRS WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD WATER TANK REPLACEMENT WATER TANK PRESSURE CALCULATIONS WATER TANK SIZE & VOLUME WATER TANKS HOW THEY WORK WATER TESTING WELLS CISTERNS & SPRINGS WELL LIFE EXPECTANCY More Information InspectAPedia TM Home & Site Map Air Conditioning InspectAPedia Bookstore Electrical Environment Exteriors Heating Home Inspection Insulate Ventilate Interiors Mold Inspect/Test Plumbing Water Septic Roofing Structure Accuracy & Bias Pledge Contact Us |
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PLUMBING TOPICS OIL TANKS SEPTIC SYSTEMS WATER PRESSURE DIAGNOSIS, REPAIR & COSTS WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS GUIDE Water Pressure Intermittent No Water Pressure Water Pressure Tank Problems Water Pressure Tank Diagnosis Bad water pressure regulator Water pipe clog diagnosis Water pipe clog repair guide Making the "right" repair Typical Water Tank & Pump Prices WATER PUMPS & TANKS & WELLS WATER PUMP CONTROLS & SWITCHES PUMP TYPES & LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER PUMP & TANK SAFETY WATER SUPPLY & DRAIN PIPING WATER TANK TYPES: WATER, OIL, EXPANSION, ALL WATER TANK LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER TANK REPAIRS WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD WATER TANK REPLACEMENT WATER TANK PRESSURE CALCULATIONS WATER TANK SIZE & VOLUME WATER TANKS HOW THEY WORK WATER TESTING WELLS CISTERNS & SPRINGS WELL LIFE EXPECTANCY More Information InspectAPedia TM Home & Site Map Plumbing Water Septic Contact Us |
Diagnosing loss of water or loss of water pressure in a building - shaking the water pressure tankFirst I'm confused by the diagnosis offered by simply "shaking" a water pressure tank. There may be a trick to this but I don't see how shaking the water pressure tank diagnoses a ruptured bladder. Shaking the tank can tell you that the water tank is empty but not why the water tank is empty. The water tank could be empty simply because you ran all of its water out into the home and the water pump never came on to replenish the water supply. Some of the possible causes of an empty water tank and no water in the home include: We discuss in detail how to diagnose loss of water pressure or how to diagnose and fix poor water pressure at Diagnosing loss of water - be sure to read that article. Some examples of what we discuss there are listed just below:
Further diagnosis: loss of water pressure which later returns "on its own"When you lose water for some time period but later it returns I think immediately of the following possible explanations:
By contrast with cases where you lose but then recover water pressure in the building are cases where you lose and do not recover water pressure or flow: If inside the well there is a leaky or broken water line rising from the pump, the pump could run but deliver less or no water to the building. If this defect is present, the system will not recover to normal operation on its own. If the pump keeps running and you have no water it is also possible that the pump itself is defective, such as having broken internal parts so that the motor runs but the pump does not move water. But if the impeller blades in the pump are broken, the system would never recover. You'd have either no water or only very low pump output no matter what conditions in the well. How might a bad water pressure tank be related to water pressure or water supply loss symptoms
Did the well contractor make the "right" repair to the pump and pressure tank?IF the tank and pump replacement have completely fixed the symptom you were having, then the contractor seems to have made the correct repair. However given the sequence that you describe, I understand that you'd suspect that there was nothing wrong with the pressure tank and that the problem, all along, was the well pump. If the contractor were skilled and diagnosed that a bad tank was hastening the demise of or even causing the demise of the well pump, it would be poor practice to replace only the pump. While a more sophisticated analysis (perhaps using an ammeter to look at current on the pump circuit, for example), might have detected at the outset that it was the pump that needed replacing, it is very common in all trades for a repair person to first replace, among the possible causes of a problem, the items which are less costly and most accessible - in this case, the water pressure tank. (Presuming your pump is a submersible down in the well.) Were the well pump replacement and water pressure tank replacement costs reasonable?The cost - sounds a bit steep if the pump was in the house but more plausible if the pump was a submersible in the well. How can you check on the reasonableness of plumbing repair costs such as water tank and well pump replacement?Most plumbers charge what seems to homeowners to be outrageous rates, but in fact plumbers, as a group, are more honorable than some presidents and certainly moreso than some real estate agents.
Here are some Typical Water Pressure Tank Prices and CostsHere are some Typical Water Well Pump Prices and CostsWater pressure tank prices (online) run from about $80 (Sears 42-gallon) to $150. to $750. (Well Mate or Well-X-Trol) for the water pressure tank itself, not including installation cost. Submersible well pump prices (online) run from about $200. to $300. (Flotec and Wayne) to $500 (Flint Walling/Star) to $870 (Grundfos 30 GPM) In the building, a deep well 2-line jet pump is about $250. (Jacuzzi) In the building, a shallow well jet pump prices run from a cost of about $150. to $200. (Other special types of water pumps such as for groundwater can of course cost much more). Some online advertisers promise low prices but won't publish them on the web. I never ever call nor deal with people who hide their prices as I assume that they're counting on high pressure sales tactics to close the deal and that later I'll find I over-paid. Save and examine plumbing parts that were removed for replacementLook at the water pressure tank that was removed - it may be possible to open it and confirm for yourself that the bladder was shot. A water pump that has been removed can be tested on a test bench; in some cases it is economical to bring a pump to an electric motor repair shop for analysis and repair. Why don't people do this? There are not enough such shops around, and second, people don't want to wait a week with no water while their pump is being repaired. Typical overall well pump and pressure tank replacement cost examplesThe retail price for the parts alone depends on what you had installed but could run between $300. to $1400. This leaves your labor cost running between $1700 at the low parts-cost end to $600. at the high parts-cost end. If the pump was a submersible (in-well), the costs to pull well line and old pump and get the new one in place will be more than an in-building pump replacement. In sum, depending on what types of equipment you had installed, the price might be right-on. Don't accuse your plumber of cheating you, but don't be afraid to ask for a more detailed explanation of the make-up of your bill. How to check on the success and reliability - the "prognosis" of a an expensive well pump and water pressure tank repair jobFirst of all, there should be no leaks, anywhere, on the equipment which was repaired. If something was left wet, wipe it off and check for leaks. I don't pay my plumber if s/he leaves her/his work leaking. I call the boss. Second, everything worked-on should be working normally to your eye and ear. An expert plumber or well contractor can check the operation of your system by a combination of observation and electrical testing, such as measuring the amperage draw on the well pump circuit during pump operation. If these parameters are in normal range you should be ok insofar as the equipment is concerned. Your repair person should have made these checks. Ask him or her. If you have been in the home for several years you should have an idea whether or not you've had a history of the well running out of water. You can understand more about your well and how the well itself is performing by noting its technical statistics such as well depth, water level, pump depth, static head, and well flow rate - topics I discuss at my website. If it is determined that you have a low-yield well, there are several solutions besides just drilling a new well - itself a shot in the dark. More expert information on this topic |
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PLUMBING TOPICS OIL TANKS SEPTIC SYSTEMS WATER PRESSURE DIAGNOSIS, REPAIR & COSTS WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS GUIDE WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL ADJUSTMENT WATER PUMP PRESSURE CONTROL REPAIR WATER PUMPS & TANKS & WELLS WATER PUMP CONTROLS & SWITCHES PUMP TYPES & LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER PUMP & TANK SAFETY WATER SUPPLY & DRAIN PIPING WATER TANK TYPES: WATER, OIL, EXPANSION, ALL WATER TANK LIFE EXPECTANCY WATER TANK REPAIRS WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD WATER TANK REPLACEMENT WATER TANK PRESSURE CALCULATIONS WATER TANK SIZE & VOLUME WATER TANKS HOW THEY WORK WATER TESTING WELLS CISTERNS & SPRINGS WELL LIFE EXPECTANCY More Information InspectAPedia TM Home & Site Map Air Conditioning InspectAPedia Bookstore Electrical Environment Exteriors Heating Home Inspection Insulate Ventilate Interiors Mold Inspect/Test Plumbing Water Septic Roofing Structure Accuracy & Bias Pledge Contact Us |
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